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The big banks apply penalties with a sledgehammer.

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Posted by: K.C. Scherpenberg

This week I did an application for a branch manager of a local bank and wondered what led him to my office to renew the mortgage with me.

Here is an Article I often refer back to when customers ask; why they shouldn’t get a mortgage from the bank that they are currently banking with.

In addition to “penalties” and things like “collateral mortgages” there are other restrictions in typical bank contracts. (Just ask your lawyer… oops.. the bank did not want you to see a lawyer…  ever wonder why?) It’s okay give me a shout and I will get you up to speed…..

A competent experienced mortgage broker is required by law to make sure that your mortgage is suitable for your family’s current and future needs. Your Broker will get you the best and cheapest product from any Bank (with the exeption of RBC, CIBC and BMO, they have closed the broker channels in favour of emoloyees that they can control  and tell what products to push). Banks are federally regulated and have no requirement for employees to be licensed to conduct mortgage business.


Read on…. this article will explain how and when shit hits the fan!

The hidden trap of mortgage penalties at the big banks!

Rob Carrick

The Globe and Mail

Published Wednesday, Dec. 04 2013, 7:52 PM EST

Last updated Thursday, Dec. 05 2013, 10:47 AM EST

It’s easy to get caught in the posted mortgage rate trap at the big banks.

No, you won’t have to pay the posted rate on your next mortgage. Pretty much nobody does that any more, according to mortgage broker Robert McLister. The real danger is that posted rates will be used to calculate the penalty if you ever have to break your mortgage, probably costing you thousands of extra dollars.

A mortgage penalty compensates a lender for the interest payments it loses out on when you break a mortgage contract. “That’s the intention,” said Mr. McLister, who is also editor of CanadianMortgageTrends.com. “But in many cases, it overcompensates. It’s punitive in many cases.”

As we head into another round of quarterly bank earnings reports, it’s worth thinking for a moment about how those wonderful profits and dividends for investors are generated. One way is by using posted instead of lower discounted rates when calculating how much to penalize a client breaking a mortgage.

With houses as expensive as they are today, it’s crucial to get the lowest mortgage rate you can. Keep the same level of focus when inquiring about mortgage penalties. Although it’s hard to imagine the need to break a mortgage on a house you’re just buying or living in happily, it can happen. Mr. McLister said roughly 70 per cent of people adjust their five-year fixed rate mortgage before maturity, although many do it to refinance or move to a bigger house rather than to break the mortgage outright.

Mortgage penalties are straightforward if you have a variable-rate mortgage – expect to pay the equivalent of three months’ interest in most cases. With a fixed-rate mortgage, the penalty is set at the higher of three months’ interest or a calculation called the interest rate differential, or IRD. The must-ask question when negotiating a fixed-rate mortgage: Do you use discounted or posted rates to calculate these penalties?

This is important because using posted rates can result in a much higher penalty. For some real world numbers, let’s use the mortgage prepayment calculators all lenders now provide on their websites. They show penalties for paying all or a portion of your remaining mortgage balance (to find them, Google your lender’s name and “mortgage prepayment calculator”).

Let’s use an example of someone who, three years ago, set up a $250,000 five-year mortgage and has a balance owning of $200,000. Assuming an original mortgage rate of 3.64 per cent with a discount of 1.5 percentage points, the mortgage prepayment calculators at several big banks showed penalties ranging from $5,000 to $7,600 or so.

A check with some alternative lenders found penalties ranging from $1,800 to $2,800. These are very rough comparisons because lenders differ a fair bit in what information they ask you to supply. But you get the picture – the big banks apply penalties with a sledgehammer.

As well as producing revenue for lenders, inflated mortgage penalties also help trap clients who might otherwise move their business to another lender. Imagine you want to refinance your mortgage or buy a bigger home and your bank won’t come across with a competitive rate. You say you’ll change banks, only to find out how prohibitively expensive it is to break your mortgage.

Mr. McLister said some banks have a stated policy of offering clients only a small discount off the posted rate if they want to add on to their mortgage to buy a more expensive house. You may be able to negotiate something better than a trivial discount, but your bank knows your leverage is limited because of the penalty you face if you go.

Alternative lenders often have better rates than the big banks, and they typically have cheaper penalty fees. Why do so many people use their banks for mortgages, then?

Mr. McLister speculated that some borrowers like the convenience of having their mortgage where they bank, and of being able to go into a branch to talk about their mortgage. If you prefer transacting online, some alternative lenders don’t have great websites.

One thing you do not need to worry about if you borrow from an alternative financial institution is that your lender will go bankrupt. “It’s funny that people look at mortgages and think, I need a safe lender.” Mr. McLister said. “If a lender goes out of business, pretty much nothing is going to change except for the name of your new lender.”

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